There are some denominations
out there that teach that God the Father and Christ the Son are one
and the same. In other words, the Father is the Son and the Son is the
Father, Jesus is God and God is Jesus and that the Father and the Son
are the same being. Let’s go through the scriptures and see for
First of all let’s catch Genesis. In chapter 1 it says,
“26 And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”
Obviously when it says, “US” and “OUR” it’s talking about more than one being. Most of us know already that God the Father is with his Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, during the creation for in Ephesians 3 it says,
“9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:”
And also in John 17 as Jesus was praying to his Father,
“5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had WITH thee before the world was.”
So before the world was, Jesus was WITH the Father. But what do you do when you believe that Jesus is the Father? Simple, in Genesis 1 you say the “US” and “OUR” is God referring to himself and his angels. At least that’s what I’ve been told.
The simple truth of the matter is, some people are going to believe what they want to believe regardless of what the bible says. If you want to believe God is referring to himself and his angels instead of himself and his Son, I can’t stop you, as for me, I know it is referring to the Father and the Son. Let’s continue.
In John chapter 1 it says,
18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.”
So here we have scripture that tells us that no man hath seen God at any time, but yet in the bible we have scriptures that tell us that the Lord walked and talked with people on this Earth. You know when Adam was created the Lord talked with him and Eve, but later on in Genesis we have the Lord talking to Abraham. In chapter 18, notice what it says in verse 1,
“And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;”
All through chapter 18 the Lord walks and talks with Abraham and his wife Sarah and tells him things such as Sarah giving birth and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah and in verse 33 it says,
“33 And the LORD went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.”
Question: Who was Abraham talking to? It wasn’t the Father, for the bible tells of that no man hath seen God at any time. He was talking with the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ.
In John chapter 1 it says,
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.”
Now in verse 14,
“14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
Now we already saw in Ephesians where God created all things by Jesus Christ, and now in verse 3 we see that all things were made by him. Now let’s look in Colossians chapter 1,
“13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.”
So we have plenty of scripture telling us that Jesus created all things and that he was with the Father before the world began. Jesus is called many things. In these last few verses he is called the Word of God. He is also called the Word of God in 1st John chapter 5, which says,
“7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
Please notice it says “these three”. The people that believe Jesus is the Father put emphasis on the “are one”. So these three are one, how can this be? Well, the scriptures clearly say,
“24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.”
Even though a man and his wife become one flesh, they are still two separate individuals. And even though the Father and the Son declare themselves to be one, they also declare they are distinct individual beings. As we continue in the scripture we will start to see a more distinct separation between the two.
This scripture is always a good one, let’s go to Proverbs 30 which says,
“4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?”
Now remember, this is the old testament scriptures. Jesus was not made flesh yet. So here is the question. Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth?
Well, who did establish all the ends of the earth? Most people will say God did. OK, what is his name? And what is his SON’S name, if thou canst tell?
Did the individual that wrote this know that God had a Son? Yes, he did. Does God declare in his holy word that he has a Son? Yes, he does. Even the old testament scriptures tell us about God’s Son before he was ever made flesh.
So, what is God’s name anyway? Let’s find out. In Isaiah 42 in starts out in verse one,
“Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.
3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.
4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.”
Notice it says, “Behold my servant,…” We learn later in Matthew 12 that this servant is the Lord Jesus Christ. So who’s talking here? It’s God the Father talking about his servant, his Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. Now in Isaiah 42:8 it says,
“8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.”
So what is God’s name? The Lord. He says so himself. So if the Father’s name is the Lord, what is his son’s name? Let’s find out. In chapter 44 of Isaiah it says,
“6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.”
Notice in this verse it says, the Lord the King of Israel, AND his redeemer the Lord of hosts. Who is this Lord of Hosts? Let’s go to Chapter 47, where it says,
“6 As for our redeemer, the LORD of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel.”
So what we have is God’s name, which is the Lord, and his son’s name, the Lord of Hosts. What is his name, and what is his son’s name if thou canst tell? The Father is the Lord and the Son is the Lord of Hosts. Why is he called the Lord of Hosts? Because he is Lord of all the hosts of heaven. There is only one being above him and that is his Father, the Lord.
In Malachi chapter 3 verse 1 it says,
“Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.”
It says, “…he shall prepare the way before me:…” Who is the me? Matthew 11 tells us that John the Baptist is the messenger and he came before the Lord Jesus Christ. So the, “me” in this verse is the Lord Jesus Christ, and the last part of the verse says, ”…behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of Hosts. Once again, the Lord of Hosts is the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of Almighty God.
Yes, the Son is called many things throughout the bible, even Jehovah, and will be called many things when he returns, but he will always remain the Son of Almighty God.
So what we have talked about so far is the Son from the old testament scriptures before he became flesh. Now let’s cover some scriptures after he became flesh.
Throughout Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, we see Christ praying to his Father. Now if Jesus is the Father and the Father is Jesus then this would make Jesus praying to himself which makes no sense.
Before he went to the cross he asked the Father three times if this cup would pass from him but not my will but thine be done. He said, “Not my will, but thine be done.” Jesus did not want to go through what the Father was about to put him through, but he said, “Not MY will, but THINE be done.” Do you see a separation here?
When Jesus was baptized, there was a voice from heaven which spake. Check out Matthew 3, which says,
“17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”
Well, Jesus didn’t say it, so who did? It was the Father. If Jesus was the Father and the Father was Jesus why would he say that? That’s like patting yourself on the back. That would be nothing but pride and God hates pride.
Now here’s a real good one. In Mark chapter 13, Jesus is talking about the end times and he’s talking about the second coming. Notice in verse 32.
“32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.”
Do the angels know the day and hour that Jesus is going to come back? Nope. Does Jesus know the day and hour he’s coming back? NO! But does the Father Know? YES! So what we have here is that the Father knows something that the Son doesn’t know, the day and hour of his return.
If Jesus was the Father and the Father was Jesus, then they would know the same thing, but they don’t. There is definitely a separation here. You couldn’t miss this one if you tried.
Most of these people that believe that the Father is the Son and the Son is the Father proclaim that while God was in heaven he was called the Father and when he became flesh he was known as the Son and when he ascended back into heaven he became the Father again.
Well, let’s go to the book of Revelation. In chapter 5 there is something I want you to see. This is the icing on the cake, starting in verse 1 it says,
“And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
7 AND HE CAME AND TOOK THE BOOK OUT OF THE RIGHT HAND OF HIM THAT SAT UPON THE THRONE.”
Question #1: Who was sitting upon the throne? God the Father.
Question #2: Who took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne? The Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, the Lamb that was slain, the Lord of Hosts, The Son of Almighty God, the Lord Jesus Christ.
But as I mentioned before, no matter how many scriptures you show them, some people will still deny that the Father and the Son are two separate beings. They refuse to believe that the Father sacrificed his Son to save us from our sins. They believe the Father became the Son and did it himself.
The Lord tested Abraham to see if he would sacrifice his only son Issac. Abraham passed the test. In Judges 11, Jephthah sacrificed his daughter because of a vow he made unto the Lord and in Hebrews the Lord called him a faithful man.
Any parent worth their salt would be more than willing to give up their life for their child. It would be very difficult for someone to sacrifice their own child.
But God did.
The bible says,
“16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
For God so loved the world, that he GAVE…
As Jesus hung upon the cross, he cried,
“And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”
This is the only time in the bible that it is recorded that God forsook or turned his back on Jesus. Some say that God can’t look upon sin, and when Christ took on the sin of the world God had to look away. But God has seen the sin and violence on this Earth since the creation. I feel with all my heart that God turned his back on his Son because he didn’t want to see what he had done to his only begotten Son.
I know that if I had to sacrifice my son, and he asked me to get out of it and I told him no, I wouldn’t want to watch him die. I just couldn’t watch.
The Father hurt for you. He put himself through misery for you. God has feelings just like the rest of us, in fact, all of the feelings that you have came from God. And I know if God ever shed any tears, it was at the cross.
Many people have seen with their mind's eye the suffering Jesus did at Calvary. Look beyond the cross, see what the Father endured as he sacrificed his only begotten Son.
Yes, there are plenty more scriptures we could use to show the separation of the Father and the Son, but those that believe don’t need any more. Those that refuse to believe or going to continue to refuse to believe regardless of the number of scriptures you show them.
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